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Article: 12973 of comp.protocols.kermit.misc
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From: shifeux@hotmail.com (Shifeux)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: ZModem Problems
Date: 16 Nov 2001 07:00:30 -0800
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> : > : ... but I get the following error using my
> : > : script after issuing a receive * command:
> : > :
> : > : Readline:TIMEOUT
> : > : Retry 0: Got TIMEOUT
> : > :
> : > These are messages from the Zmodem software.
> :
> : Thats what I thought, the transfer works sometimes and other times it
> : does not. My problem is that I would need some way to trap that error
> : so the script does not halt. Any ideas?
> :
> Put an IF FAILURE clause after the RECEIVE command?
I have decided it would be easier to convince the host machine people
to let me use kermit protocol :-)
> : > : input 20 {Username:}
> : > : output USER\13
> : > : ...
> : > :
> : > You're not checking any of these INPUTs for failure. Thus even if you
> : > script doesn't work, it will still start Zmodem in receive mode, and of
> : > Zmodem will time out if there is no connection.
> :
> : I did have "if failure timeout" to catch this but i was experimenting
> : due to the timeout errors i was receiving. Made no difference either
> : way for me. The same timeout occurs.
> :
> What is "timeout"? It's not a Kermit command. Is it the name of a macro
> that is defined in the context of this script?
sorry about that, yes just timeout macro
> : > : receive *
> : >
> : > What's the "*"? This tells Kermit to save the incoming file under the
> : > name "*" (literally). You probably didn't mean that. Just leave it off.
> :
> : This is what I type to get the files from the remote host. In
> : interactive mode typing receive * will transfer all the files in my
> : outbin on the remote host to the local pwd with the appropriate file
> : names.
> :
> No, RECEIVE means "passively wait for files to be sent by the other
> Kermit". When the files arrive, they are stored under the names they are sent
> with, except if you give RECEIVE an operand, this tells Kermit to store the
> incoming file under that name. However, the operand is probably ignored for
> Zmodem.
apparently when the scripting does work the * is being ignored. The
whole problem seems to be traffic on the host. It is a random error,
the transfer does take place, just not consistantly. The part that
troubles me is i never have that error message when i connect manually
without the script.
> Hmmmm, something just occurred to me. You are using C-Kermit 8.0 Beta,
> right? Recent releases of Kermit support something called "autodownload"
> for both Kermit and Zmodem protocol transfers. If during either CONNECT
> mode an INPUT or MINPUT command, a Kermit or Zmodem packet arrives, C-Kermit
> automatically enters the appropriate protocol.
>
> Therefore it is possible that the file was downloaded automatically before
> your script ever reaches the RECEIVE command, which would explain why RECEIVE
> times out. To rule this out, try adding:
>
> SET TERMINAL AUTODOWNLOAD OFF
>
> to your script.
I know there was no transfer at all taking place. My dirs were empty.
I did try this and nothing happened. After searching the newsgroup
for zmodem postings, i seem to find many postings with troubles
sending also, due to the whole sz rz redirection thing. So it seems
that once i lick the receiving part i am going to have problems
sending also. I'm going to try to get the remote machine to use a
normal protocol like kermit :-) Thanks for all the help.
> - Frank